Mr. Alan Dukes:

Perhaps that was suggested, yes. But, I mean, I think the central point I was making there was that the Department, for its own reasons, decided to hire McKinsey to do a piece of work. We were never told about it and I was annoyed by the fact that not only had the Department appointed McKinsey to do this work on their behalf but they had the grace to inform us that we were going to have to pay the bill for McKinseys. Frankly, I wasn't at all impressed with the people I met who were carrying out that and I think the same could be said of other people, and I was absolutely astounded when I was told. We never saw the report, incidentally.