Mr. Alan Dukes:

Well, as I say, I didn't have an awful lot of experience with the old board because it didn't exist for very long after Frank Daly and I were appointed. This is just an impression and I can't put my hand on my heart and say that this is the full truth, but I have the impression that a number ... that a lot of decisions made by the board of Anglo Irish Bank, previous to the appointment of the public interest directors, had been kind of worked out in advance by a smaller inner group and then presented to the board.