Mr. Fintan Drury:

Seán FitzPatrick was chairman of Anglo Irish Bank. Fintan Drury was a former director of Anglo Irish Bank, not at that time, and Alan Gray was a director of the Central Bank. So ... and they were ... they were selected for that discussion on the basis that prior to going on holidays, I had had a discussion with Brian Cowen about the value of having a number of smart people around a table to discuss with him some of the more substantive economic issues that ... and not just economic issues, but primarily economic issues that were facing the country at the time and which he, as Taoiseach, might need to get some outside perspectives on.