Mr. Alan Dukes:

Donal O'Connor had been chair from the point of nationalisation. He was executive chair up to the time that Mike Aynsley was appointed as CEO and he reverted to being ... you know, a normal non-executive chair. And I have to say, he put his heart and soul into it. He worked extremely long hours at it and he announced that he wanted to resign from the bank in mid-2010, so we had to look for another chair and the other directors, kind of, persuaded me to take it on.