Ms Ethna Tinney:

-----and one of the things I learnt over the years that I was on the board ... I was surprised sometimes when there would be a robust conversation about, say, something like this, that it's not referred to in the minutes. And I learnt, late in the day, that if you want something minuted specifically, you have to request it. If you do not ... supposing I say, "Well, I, Ethna Tinney, do not agree with this tracker thing"-----