Mr. Alan Merriman:

My recollection is ... guarantee wasn't discussed. That's my recollection. My recollection was that the meetings were more about what I would call the ebbs and flows of liquidity in the market, concerns around how this was going to be resolved, concerns about ECB. And it did clearly progress to EBS's position itself and what solutions there might be for EBS from a more M and A-type perspective.