Eoghan Murphy (Dublin South East, Fine Gael) | Oireachtas source

Okay. I have to move on, I'm afraid, because I am limited on time. Just the last thing I want to look at is Haven, the broker market business that EBS went into, which was a significant change for the society. Do you think the board had a sufficient understanding of what it was getting into? And how important was this move to the society, given that the CEO of Haven was also not invited to be re-elected to the board in 2008?