Ms Fidelma Clarke:

Well, it was a different model but it was operating in a very, very different time. I've seen the numbers in relation to remuneration. I saw them probably the first time that you did. Not everyone was being paid anything like the levels that you're seeing there so I wouldn't say that it was ubiquitous across EBS or anything like it. And, clearly, they related, in the main, to members of the executive rather than people who were at middle management or lower management.