John Paul Phelan (Carlow-Kilkenny, Fine Gael) | Oireachtas source

Okay. For both of you, were you aware prior to the contribution of Mr. Cardiff to the inquiry that he expressed the view here in his statement and in his evidence that Minister Lenihan did not have full and frank discussions on matters concerning the banks at Cabinet because he was afraid that such matters would be leaked? Were you aware of that at the time or when did you subsequently become aware?