Mr. John Gormley:

No, I was not aware that Minister Lenihan was engaging with the Central Bank on this issue. I think I've said to you that, at that stage, Minister Lenihan was, as I said, keeping his cards close to his chest. But we did have that discussion at the pre-Cabinet meeting on the 28th, where I raised my concerns but the actual ... my knowledge of the drafting of the legislation that you referred to was not there, I just didn't ... I didn't know about it.