Mr. John Gormley:

What happened during the crisis ... that it was ... Minister Lenihan and Minister Ryan, my colleague, developed a very good working relationship and their advisers developed a very good working relationship, so the two parties in government were represented by those two people and they met regularly. They developed, I think, a very good rapport and worked on those issues and, in turn, Eamon Ryan would then ... would then come back and report to us.