Mr. John Gormley:

Well, as I explained in my official statement and also in my opening remarks, a meeting did take place on the Sunday. I met with the Taoiseach and with Minister Lenihan in the ante-room opposite the Cabinet room. I had told David McWilliams in advance that I would pass on his ideas. He had written an e-mail and quite detailed as you can see in the appendix. I passed that e-mail on to Minister Lenihan and I said, "Are we going to do this?" We discussed it but it was a fairly cursory acknowledgement of this. I think there was also an element of Minister Lenihan not wanting the Department to know that he had been in discussions with David McWilliams. I don't think David McWilliams was, perhaps, well got in the Department and so I was fairly circumspect in what I said but I did pass him the document, it was quite detailed. And so, to answer your question directly, yes, he absolutely knew what was meant by that.