Mr. Joe O'Reilly:

I didn't have a relationship with Mr. Lenihan. I'd no other relationship with him, no more than anybody else, so ... no more than any other Minister. So, we built homes out in his constituency, out in Castleknock. We were involved in the SDZ out in Adamstown. And again I'm standing to be corrected at this ... at this stage, but I've a feeling that Mr. Lenihan was a junior Minister for Children.

And, at that point in time, we did have a meeting with him in relation to education provisions in ... for Adamstown. So, again, I'd say that we had a professional relationship with him, no more than we would have had with any local TD or any Minister, in relation to, you know, any area we operated within.