John Paul Phelan (Carlow-Kilkenny, Fine Gael) | Oireachtas source

Okay. In relation to your opening statement again, and I was trying to remember what page it was on, I was taking a note of it earlier. You said that ... kind of herald as an achievement your expectations that the sale of the loans in NAMA will reach a value well in excess of what NAMA paid for them. As somebody who, I mean, I don't know you from Adam, but you're a businessman, how do you feel about the fact that effectively, taxpayers' money has had to have been invested into your business? Some would argue maybe to keep it afloat, you might argue that it could have stayed afloat anyway but effectively, it has been put into that business to keep it afloat for the last six or seven years. How do you feel about that? Do you have anything to say to the taxpayers of the country who are hard-pressed enough and might have some reservations about that?