Mr. Joe O'Reilly:

No. No, again ... again, I can only ... I can only tell you about our experience with them and ... so, again, that was ... you know, our relationships with them were formal and professional and we wouldn't have seen and we didn't see ... the people that we ... the people that we dealt with ... and maybe it was because the scale and the size that we operated with ... operated at, they were very professional and they were well informed, from what we seen.