Mr. John Dunne:

I was never involved in any such meetings. I never knew they were going on. One anticipated that there would be regular meetings between various levels of staff and that there would be various levels ... various meetings between banking supervisors and bankers. I mean, at the end of that day, that's I suppose what they were about. So, it doesn't surprise me that there were meetings. It does surprise me to the extent that people felt that there were sort of secret meetings going on about which they weren't being informed. But I had no knowledge of that until I saw it in Mary Burke's evidence.