Mr. John Dunne:

Well, I can't recall the statement that ... the particulars ... I've no doubt that she made it, but I simply can't recall it. But what I'm trying to suggest to you is this: that the outcome of these reviews were on the basis of an agreed position and the agreed position was not just about the, you know, the nine, ten, a specific number, it was on the basis that: "Are we now happy, both the board representatives here and the staff, that you now have the staff levels which you consider necessary to do this job?"