Mr. Bertie Ahern:

The Council, can I say this, I spent a lot of my life in ECOFIN and the Council, Deputy. And you know, if you're a small country ... a few years later Germany were way over the line, way over the line. And I had the Chancellor come down to say to me, "Keep your mouth shut, Bertie.", "Come on," I said, "don't give me that."