Mr. Bertie Ahern:

Well, I ensured the views, as I always did ... because, as you know, there were meetings between Central Bank and the Department of the Environment about the housing situation on an ongoing basis. I've no doubt that those views went into it. But I did meet the Central Bank Governor on a number of times. I don't believe I raised it with him. But the process of the view of my Department would have been ... and that ... I think that ... when ... that was 2000-----