Mr. Bertie Ahern:

I think sometimes you might be getting too much of it coming at you from too many reports and I accept that. As I said in my statement, I get the National Competitiveness Council, you had Forfás, you have ESRI, you have the Central Bank, you have Growth and Stability Pact, you have IMF, you have the OECD, you have a number ... you have Moody's, you have all of these organisations are coming out with, if not annual reports bi-annual reports.

So ... but is there a way that you can have a smaller independent group? I suppose the fiscal group is what's now perceived as an independent group to do that. I'd have to say, and I've accepted earlier on about the competitiveness issues and moving from the exports to domestic stimulus, that that didn't do us much good. The National Competitiveness Council did do some useful papers in that regard.