Mr. Bertie Ahern:

Well, I didn't have a close relationship for a start. But I don't believe that in trying to build supply and trying to get more houses built ... yes, you could say you're encouraging builders to build more houses because we had to move from a situation where we'd 40,000 houses to 60,000 houses or 55,000 houses. But it was our position to try and get more and more supply.