Dr. Michael Somers:

Brian Cowen. And the pressure came on us to put money ... the Minister for Finance wanted me to do something ... put money somewhere or other. And I said to him, "Look, you know my position. I'll only do it if you give me a direction".

"Ah, look", he said, "come off it, Michael, come off it." And I said to him, "Look, I'm telling you what my position is. I'm not doing it unless you give me the direction." So that's where it stood and I mean-----