Mr. Brendan McDonagh:

Myself and Mr. Whelan clearly discussed my response in terms of going back to Mr. Beausang. But I suppose ... I don't think we had an opportunity to discuss that with Mr. Somers ... whether he was out that day, or he wasn't available at the time because it was over lunch time. But myself and Oliver took the view that this was a big question and if we were sending a response back I didn't want Dr. Somers, who was chief executive, who I've full respect for to be blind-sided in case he was rang by Secretary General Doyle about his two guys down in Treasury Building and he was blind-sided by it. So the view was myself and Oliver took at the time was that we would copy Dr. Somers on it just to make sure he was in the loop.