Mr. Brendan McDonagh:

-----I probably did see it in real time, but it didn't surprise me, because it was talking about nationalising an institution at five to twelve on Monday, 29 September and that's the way I suppose I was orientated, that this is the way this was going. I didn't know what the discussion was going on in the Government's meeting room, or the Taoiseach's meeting room, but I thought the meeting was about that.