Mr. Brendan McDonagh:

I don't know, Senator. I mean, from what ... I mean, from the evidence I've seen here, it said the meeting started at 6.30 p.m. I wasn't aware the meeting started at 6.30 p.m. We arrived there some time after 9 o'clock so all I can say is what Mr. Cardiff and Mr. Doyle told the committee here in their evidence. Mr. Cardiff said the NTMA's views were fully communicated to the meeting. Mr. Doyle referred to somebody from the NTMA without name who was in the ante-room who had very strong views. I believe he might have been talking about myself but he could have been talking about Mr. Whelan as well, I don't know, but I suspect it was myself.