Susan O'Keeffe (Labour) | Oireachtas source

Okay. In an interview that he gave, again, he ... to the Community Voicenewspaper, when he said he had a good working relationship with Mr. Cowen around the Cabinet table he said:

I felt that when he was elected Taoiseach he would give a stronger lead and express himself in a more forthright way about the problems facing the country. I felt I had to give a lot of that lead and give those forthright expressions myself, along with everything else.

What observation would you make about that? This was something he put on the record.