Ms Cathy Herbert:

It did come as a surprise, I remember that. He had been ... he was ... so he had just been appointed Minister for Justice which was his first senior appointment and he obviously ... he had an affinity with that whole portfolio, he was a lawyer and he had a lot of things that he wanted to do in that Department. But, you know, you don't refuse a Taoiseach and it ... he knew, I think he knew that the task was going to be daunting. But, I mean, he enjoyed the business of government and he would have done whatever was required of him, absolutely.