Ms Cathy Herbert:

Well, I'm ... I have a vague enough memory of it but my ... I think what happened was that we had had that series of pre-budget meetings in the Department and then he obviously went off and talked to banking officials and was told of this meeting. And I think he went home briefly that night, actually, I think there was a family celebration and he went home very briefly and came back in. So I would have been, I think, probably in Government Buildings before him or shortly after but we didn't go together. But he just said that there ... the banks and there's a meeting tonight and something may come out of it and, you know, would you come over? And I was with the press officer who would have been involved a bit in the preparations that had taken place, those secret preparations that had taken place that I think William Beausang referred to.