Pearse Doherty (Donegal South West, Sinn Fein) | Oireachtas source

Okay. But he's not ... what we're trying to do in this committee is gather a bit of evidence and we're trying to ... unfortunately, the late Minister isn't with us anymore, so we're trying to find out, did he ... on a first person basis, did he ever say that he had a phone conversation with Jean-Claude Trichet, that the issue of bondholders or burning bondholders was discussed? Not to your knowledge-----