Mr. Brian Cowen:

I don't know, I don't know. I don't know, I can't answer to that, to the extent that he was very clear in his ... in his analysis at the meeting that I attended. And, the meeting ... what he's talking now about the Governor, that may be in respect of this question of supporting Anglo if needs be tomorrow, and ... and having money available to do that. So, he ... so, obviously the guarantee meant that that wasn't required.