Pearse Doherty (Donegal South West, Sinn Fein) | Oireachtas source

The point I'm trying to get to, Mr. Cowen, is, was that not the, the background to the debate about nationalisation of those two institutions, as opposed to liquidity? The reason I'm saying this is because at the meeting that night there was a, there was a viewpoint expressed that there was loan losses in those two institutions-----