Mr. Brian Cowen:

Well, I mean, I don't question the individual capabilities of the people that were there. I mean, they have their own ... they've had their own successes and their own difficulties in their political ... in their public ... in their, sorry, in their business careers, but, I mean, that's just a matter of opinion. They were the people that he brought together. It was to discuss those issues, it wasn't, as I say, about banking at all. And, you know, in retrospect, I know that people ... if people are of a certain demeanour or a certain mindset, you know, people add two and two and get 20, and there's nothing I can do about that. But that's ... the fact of the matter is what happened at that meeting is as I've given it. And there's no more to it.