Mr. Brian Cowen:

No, sorry, Chairman, I didn't just to clarify. I'm saying that there were previous meetings. I had meetings during the course of that week where the papers that were produced by Merrill Lynch were discussed. It's on record and there was a huge number of people there. I'm just saying he attended meetings I attended but I didn't know what his view would be, no more than he knew what my view would be until we heard what we were hearing on the night of the guarantee.