Mr. Brian Cowen:

There are some people who don't ... I don't ... I don't know, I can't answer for their ... for that. They should understand, they're professional people, they're politicians - some of them - there's others who are ministers in governments and they are not politicians and they're more of a technocratic background or whatever. But I don't know why that was the case because in Brian Lenihan they had a very credible Minister for Finance who had ... who had been delivering budgetary results that were making changes and adapt ... and adjustments greater than any other EU country. Now, we had further to travel so why they should question the fact that he was simply trying to manoeuvre to a position where he could formally recommend to Government that we apply for a programme, based on the discussions he would have had and the clearing up of some issues that he wanted cleared up to his own satisfaction ... I think, in that respect, he was frustrated and treated somewhat unfairly by his colleagues.