Pearse Doherty (Donegal South West, Sinn Fein) | Oireachtas source

It's not ... it's about the over-exposure and not ... and it may never have materialised if property prices kept on going up for a couple of years. But, no, that's fair enough, if you weren't aware of it until autumn of 2008. Can I ask you in relation to the dinner you had with the board of Anglo on 24 April? You mentioned that you didn't take any notes; you say that there was ... you didn't take any briefing. Is that briefing from Anglo or briefing from your officials or-----