Mr. Brian Cowen:

Well, obviously there was concern about that. I was out of the country on that particular day for a few days and was notified that the chairman of the Anglo Irish Bank wanted to talk to me. I said, "Fine, if that's what you want to do." I rang ... I think I rang the Central Bank Governor first, John Hurley, and said to him, "Would it be appropriate if I took a call from the Anglo Irish Bank chairman?"