Mr. Charlie McCreevy:

But sure I'm ... I haven't lived to the ripe old age that I am without meeting a large cross-section of people and some of them happened to be builders and developers. Now that you mention Sean Dunne, I would have met Sean Dunne in 1983-'84 when, I think, it might have been his first or second venture out on his own. He's a chartered ... he's a quantity surveyor. And Mr. Dunne was building, I think, about 40 or 50 houses under some type of licence for the National Building Agency. It was local authority housing he was building. So I know Mr. Dunne from about '83-'84 and he comes from Carlow. So that's the length of time I know Mr. Dunne. So he's a friend of mine, together with lots and lots of friends of mine. He ... by the way, the housing ... by the way, he's quite a good builder as well and I regard him as a long-standing friend of mine. And I ... it's common knowledge that I was invited to his wedding.