Mr. Charlie McCreevy:

Yes and, by the way, we'd meet with IBEC, meet with SIPTU, ICTU, and everybody else. I just ... this is the point I was going to make. There was one great thing ... there are many great things about Europe and there are many downsides about Europe, and there are certain pluses and minuses about being in the European Commission ... being the European Commissioner. But one of the great things in Europe, I'll have to say, is that as a Commissioner, you are encouraged to meet all types of lobbyists at all times. And it's all there to meet ... and you can bring in everyone you like or don't like, whatever the case may be, and there's never a comment in the wide earthly world. Whereas here in this country, it seems to be you must only meet with certain persons-----