John Paul Phelan (Carlow-Kilkenny, Fine Gael) | Oireachtas source

Speaking of using the expertise of the NTMA, I'm not sure if you've followed - I'm sure you haven't followed all of the evidence, you've probably a lot more to be doing than following all of the evidence of ... heard at this committee, but what do you make of the decision or the failure, I suppose, on the night of the guarantee, to have the NTMA consulted, seeing as their, you know their function, which they've been very successful at, in terms of funding the State over the years, that they weren't actually in the room and directly giving their view?