Mr. Kevin Cardiff:

It was a serious contingency consideration. Just as I would imagine that there are people ... well, just as I imagine that at the time, there were people all over Europe who were having similar conversations.

I had a conversation with a colleague from another jurisdiction who said, "Kevin, are you working on such and such?" I said, "No, of course not, how could I be working on that?" And he said, "Well, could you have whoever is not working on it telephone whoever who is not working on it in my office?" But no one could admit to this, of course not.