Mr. Aidan O'Driscoll:

No. I will get the Deputy information on the penalties we have imposed for non-compliance in Natura areas generally and any other information we have on the reasons in that regard. If he can identify any case in which the Department has specifically applied a penalty on a farmer where he or she was following the guidance of the National Parks and Wildlife Service on the birds and habitats directives, I would like to see the details. I agree with his interpretation that we cannot do this.