Mr. Derek Moran:

I mean it's ... civil servants of their very nature, you know, give advice, and you know, the Minister of the day can accept or reject that advice, you know, because they have an electoral mandate and they have other people advising them and so on. And that's the nature of what we do, and it's unlike, I think, other jobs to the extent that that's what you do. You advise, if it's accepted, fine, you implement it. If it's not, fine, you implement it.