Sean Barrett (Independent) | Oireachtas source

Thank you very much, Chairman, and apologies, Mr. Moran, for that electronic interruption. In that ... what turned out to be your farewell address to the committee on public accounts, where you quoted about the openness in the last paragraph in your own presentation. You also say a couple of pages earlier, back in 2012, like statements of being Irish when abroad, saying one word to the Department of Finance was something people avoided volunteering to others. This was not a comfortable place in which to drive policy innovation and implementation. I think Professor John FitzGerald when was in to us, echoed those sentiments. He said there was a cultural change in the Department of Finance in the last decade:

It became more concerned about the politics of things and less interested in the technical detail. I would have had less interaction [with the Department].

You have raised such ... we could have the entire inquiry into reform of public administration but could you expand on those ideas that you had in that part of your paper this afternoon?