John Paul Phelan (Carlow-Kilkenny, Fine Gael) | Oireachtas source

Okay. I want to turn briefly to a couple of general questions about IBRC, which we can ask general issues. And I want to reference a quote from The Sunday Business Post, 26 April 2015, Mr. Mike Aynsley, former chief executive, stated, and I quote, "I don't think it's a secret that I don't get on at all well with John.", end of quote. It's 26 April 2015.