Mr. John Moran:

It didn't impact on my decision to leave but it most certainly worried me about the people that were staying. You know, I ... I think people maybe remember the ... the situation, I was trying to ... or I had been having a debate about urban planning, and what we should actually have in terms of ... of the future development of ... of a country where there was most certainly a shift towards greater cities, globally, and what would that mean for Ireland. And I suggested that if we were to continue as we did back in the ... in the 2000s, to continue building with a ... a need for three bedroom semi-D houses, that that might in actual fact not be the right choice. But it wasn't my ... my point to make that decision, I just simply thought that that was a relevant debate because what I'd seen in other cities was that the quality of accommodation, in terms of multi-family dwellings, was much different. And I learnt fairly quickly afterwards that people had knocked on the door of one of my ... the apartment I have in New York to actually take photographs of it and I read the newspapers that weekend seeing photographs of ... of property I owned across the ... the ... in different locations. Without, of course, people having noticed that in the larger cities, in which I had stuff, I lived in apartments, not in three bedroom houses. So, it should have actually proven the point. But, that was, I mean, also something that was raised by my neighbour, who found that their back garden was also photocopied and stuff like that. And we thought long and hard at the Department about whether it was appropriate to file a complaint about that but in the end it was decided that that was probably not going to win. The Attorney General's office had to be involved in terms of actually having the conversations and, ultimately, what it showed to me was that the system was not built ... because it wasn't used to having those types of attacks on ... on civil servants and wasn't built to actually protect their rights to privacy.