Ciarán Lynch (Cork South Central, Labour) | Oireachtas source

Okay, but the NTMA now are the nation's bankers and you're saying they'd a very, very pivotal role in the lead up to this and all the rest of it. These are not some sort of ... even with Merrill Lynch with fairness to them, this is the NTMA, this is the nation's banker. They're outside the door for four hours.