Mr. David Doyle:

When I first saw that note appearing in ... I think it was the year after I retired, I ... I was ... I didn't accept that I had actually given the information that's included in the second bit of that. And, since ... since it was included in the ... in the documentation, I have racked my brains to try and remember did I say that and I'm convinced I didn't. And, in fact, I am saying I didn't give that information. I asked another party that was at that meeting from PricewaterhouseCoopers, did I in fact give that information in response to my own question, and he said "No". My understanding from him is that it was probably the people from the NTMA that were at the meeting.