Mr. Tom Considine:

I didn't, no. I think ... well, first of all, I think, in fairness, there should be, you know ... I was on the council of the ESRI and we didn't interfere with any of their academic work. It was purely just managing the organisation and that's a fact. The second thing about it is that as part of its ongoing day-to-day work, and I think John FitzGerald said this, there would have been contact between the relevant section and the Department of Finance and the ESRI and that was mainly technical. Now, every now and again, inevitably, there would be maybe difference of opinion which would be more than technical. Now, I inquired ... I got on to the Department of Finance and I was told anyway that ... that one of the issues anyway definitely didn't concern me, it happened after I had left. I don't know anything about it. I couldn't get to the bottom of the nervous Nellies either, so I'm afraid I can't help you with that.