Mr. Tom Considine:

One of the things that we did every year was to meet every assistant secretary and their staff and during the course of those meetings, particularly with the economic side, such issues would be discussed. And I see in the core papers there, there's position notes developed for MAC meetings and they would have been discussed. But the bottom line really is somebody has to arrive at a conclusion at the end and when there's a meeting to discuss an issue, if you don't manage to persuade your colleagues of your position, then it won't be adopted but, you know, there is nothing unusual about that. And there was no issue about trying to stymie these comments or in any way close them down.