Mr. Tom Considine:

-----in relation to the specific property things, I've already said in reply to Senator O'Keeffe that I thought they should have been abolished earlier but in 2004 the Minister did commence the process of doing this. He assigned the task to the Department and the Revenue Commissioners and we hired in two outside consultants who made recommendations in relation to a whole range of these - about 13 of them in all, I think.